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"Before the raid" - great errors

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The article contains great errors in the sector "before the raid". As written in the infobox the viking commander was unknown (I'll see if I may find a source with a name), however in that section two commanders are mentioned, and also a sieg i northen Africa. Björn Ironsides raid was 15 years later, 859, whe these two went into Mediterranean sea and also plundered Luna and Pisa in Italy. (Im writing about that trip on svwp right now and have a lot of sources about that). It is also then the Aftican town was taken. Adville (talk) 12:45, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Good you spotted this, are you going to fix it? TurnipCream (talk) 12:48, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I will try, but right now I'm on a phone out. Thought I better write here so it is not forgotten. Later tonight I think. Br. Adville (talk) 13:12, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I fixed most of it, but am unsure if the last town, starting with A was struck both in this and the 859 raid. I do not have the source. Adville (talk) 20:00, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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. Emir Abd ar-Rahman II of Córdoba 105.71.147.62 (talk) 02:11, 23 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Javext Since when was Asilah under the Abbasids? Give me sources. 83.225.174.180 (talk) 22:28, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We go by what reliable sources say, not by an editor's opinions. The source cited for this information in the article is Neil Price, an eminent archaeologist specializing in the study of Viking Age Scandinavia. Carlstak (talk) 21:59, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The source is already stated in the sentence. Javext (talk) 13:24, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Javext Since when was Asilah under the Abbasids? 83.225.181.76 (talk) 15:16, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The source you put doesn't even mention Asilah. The source cited that the Abbasids controlled Asilah is this one:[1]
It states and I quote: "[...], and possibly Asilah on the Moroccan coast, a settlement under the distant control of the Abbasid Caliphate." Javext (talk) 23:14, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not sure why Javext is sinmply repeating what I've already said above. The map on page 123 of the IP's source does show Asilah in the territory of the Idrisid Caliphate, but the book Viking Warriors is not an authoritative source. The author, Ben Hubbard, is not a credentialed historian, as far as I can determine. He appears to be a journalist who writes on various subjects, including even manuals such as "How Computers Work", probably on assignment. Nothing Hubbard writes about history would supercede the scholarly works of Neil Price, an archaeologist specializing in the study of Viking Age Scandinavia and the archaeology of shamanism. He is currently a professor in the Department of Archaeology and Ancient History at Uppsala University in Sweden. Carlstak (talk) 03:14, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Javext Personally, I do not know who studied history because these are disastrous mistakes. There is not a single reliable historical source that says that Asilah was Abbasid, and that historian who mentioned the incident is an unreliable historian, and regarding Morocco, he does not know anything about it.[1] 31.158.29.110 (talk) 16:30, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We go by what reliable sources say, not by the opinion of single purpose WP accounts with no contributions to other articles, the last two of which are IPs that both geolocate to Italy, so almost certainly from the same person, lol. Carlstak (talk) 20:36, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Carlstak First, I do not have a Wikipedia account because I am new to it, and in the future I will create my own account. As for the title, it is constantly changing and I do not know the reason. Second, I got off topic and I gave you sources that prove that the the city of Asilah was never Abbasid because the borders of the Abbasids to the west did not extend beyond Ifriqiya, Unfortunately, when you try to correct trivial information, you are met with people who have nothing to do with history, neither closely nor remotely, and I think that the site developers knew that, so they admitted that Wikipedia is not a reliable source. 31.158.26.48 (talk) 13:19, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  1. ^ Andalusí, Legado (1999). Itinéraire culturel des Almoravides et des Almohades: Maghreb et Péninsule ibérique (in French). Fundación El legado andalusì. ISBN 978-84-930615-1-7.